LadySybilVimes It’s not an attack on anyone’s personal parenting to acknowledge that clothes for children are influenced by gender stereotypes
Gum-boots Why do parents put up with this? Why is it ok a five year old girl is wearing short shorts and tshirts that aren’t sun safe? I just don’t understand it and would actively battle it if I had girls.
The above, is what all - ALL - my posts are about. The leap from “children are influenced by gender stereotypes” to “It’s the parents fault for not ‘battling’ it more”.
LadySybilVimes It’s a shame we can’t discuss this without people getting defensive. I don’t care what you put on your children. I do care what corporations decide for us about how our children should dress. I think that does matter.
We are all VERY happy to discuss gender stereotypes and society and corporations, but that’s not what this thread was started with. It wasn’t “why do they sell it, what can we do about it?” it was “oh gosh, those terrible parents of girls, why aren’t they battling this, it’s so easy”. If people are blamed, of course they will get defensive. It’s disingenuous to suggest that this was a “what corporations are doing to our kids” thread and go self righteous from there.
Gum-boots In my mind it’s a battle that matters.
I’d say most of us agree that it’s a battle that matters. But who is the battle with? Our own children? Is our healthy option to go to battle with our own daughters because they have absorbed what society tells them? Must we become the first ones to police their bodies and clothing? Or is our battle with other parents? The ones who have chosen to go along with what society has pushed upon them and their daughters, maybe heaping them with judgement will help the situation?
Or is the battle with the organisations, the corporations, who are doing this stuff, and who are profiting from it.
If the battle matters - do you want to be the person lobbying against it somehow? Or will sitting around judging other parents be your contribution?
Tell you what. If you think that choosing clothes for your children unopposed by societal norms is easy peasy, I would invite you to replace all the clothes in your son’s wardrobes with ‘girl’ clothes. Nice frilly ones. Pink. Dresses. Sun safe ones of course. But clothing that is stereotypically girly. I would be really curious as to how willing your sons are to go out in their parent-selected wardrobe. Presumably they’d be fine with it, because it IS just as easy as selecting their wardrobe and then they won’t question it, they’ll just wear it. But I have an inkling that you may instead finally get to experience what it’s like when your kid disagrees with your wardrobe preference.