JK Rowling

LadySybilVimes

I know we talked about JK in another thread but I thought she deserved her own.

I still can’t get over the way the rape threats, death threats and (now) pipe bomb threats against her are just ignored. If saying biological sex is violence, what is saying you’ll rape a woman for her views? It’s like feminism never happened.

I saw this on twitter which is a good overview of what she’s received:

CassandraNORI

Just pasting the screenshots here for those who don’t have twitter:

CassandraNORI

LadySybilVimes

Thanks!

It’s more shocking seeing them laid out like that. And knowing that’s just the tip of the iceberg as far as the abuse she gets.

RichardParker

If that’s what she gets- imagine what other women without her money and independence have received.. and they’ve just quietly lost their jobs, publishing contracts, their voice. But this is fine.

LadySybilVimes

James Kirkup who writes for the UK Spectator has covered the gender debate there for ages and he pointed out on twitter today that he gets no abuse at all for it. Just women.

CassandraNORI

This is a men’s rights movement, which is sucking women, children and transpeople into its vortex. Supported by handmaidens, sadly.

Inez

Just saying - I don’t like the abuse, but am liking your posts ^ drawing attention to it.

What makes me angry is the number of bandwagon jumpers - they’ve never read what she wrote, they’ve just read some ridiculous tweet/post about how the literal violence of her words is killing them. The pick me girls are the worst, willing to endorse violence and abuse against another woman just for some transient (ha) validation.

And now the American Booksellers Association has de-listed Abigail Shrier’s book (Irreversible Damage) and issued TWO grovelling apologies. I’ve just ordered two more copies - one for each apology - and am going to give them to people.

CallMeAl

Inez What makes me angry is the number of bandwagon jumpers - they’ve never read what she wrote, they’ve just read some ridiculous tweet/post about how the literal violence of her words is killing them.

This part is really hard, I work in a really ‘woke’ area and it’s basically assumed that her name is equivalent to transphobia, it’s not even questioned. And I just have to nod alone because to question it would be like painting a scarlett X on myself and I’d become the target.

Inez

CallMeAl

I’m really sorry - it’s so difficult.

We all do it, though. I won’t join in a conversation with a lot of people now, because I know how it’s going to go. I don’t have the energy, and I think it’s pointless to an extent. They won’t see the truth until some woke person they follow changes sides and says it in 140 characters.

I think we’re a growing, if silent, group. It would probably be a massive shock to some of these people who are so used to proclaiming right-think that many people actually think they’re the ones on the “wrong side of history”.

CallMeAl

Inez

I hope you’re right, that it’s growing. Sometimes I hope it is, sometimes I think it’s just because I’m spending more time in the areas where people share my views.

RichardParker

I stayed silent when Mums from school were talking about it - as though we should just totally accept that a man was always female because he liked handbags as a child. I thought of very concise responses afterwards, of course - but in the moment it’s very confronting. It’s hard enough online.

wannabefree

RichardParker

Yes. I was part of the committee for my eldest’s kindergarten and there were a set of childrens books tackling various topics. I had previously not given gender ideology much thought and accepted the concept without question. Then I picked up one of the books and read through it, and there was a page with a child born a girl that liked things like football etc and then referred to the child as a ‘he’. I just instantly thought of all the hard work I had put in over previous years telling my little girl that the boy at the playground that said her green scooter was a boys scooter was wrong, and the various ‘boy’ things she liked doing or was excluded from joining in, weren’t ‘boy’ things at all. The hard work in ensuring she was exposed to both ‘girl’ toys and ‘boy’ toys and had a range of clothes etc…

It was that moment I realised this doesn’t sit well with me at all… but I didn’t know what to say, I didn’t want to sound like I was a bigot but I also didn’t want someone telling my little girl that because she was raised a certain way and liked certain things, she should be questioning her gender.

CallMeAl

wannabefree

That’s horrible. I would be beyond furious if I read that, I’ve spent infinite time telling my kids the same.

wannabefree

CallMeAl

I raised in on 9EB and was told its actually a really good childrens book on the topic… can’t remember who by now.

RichardParker

I don’t understand why that needs to be in a children’s book at all.

CassandraNORI

This tweet from Sophie who is transsexual male (gender critical - cops loads of abuse from the TRAs) is good - I agree this is why JK received such pushback. The abuse is because she’s a woman, too.

LadySybilVimes

It might be my imagination but I’m seeing more blue tick twitterers coming out to support JK Rowling. Especially more men.

CassandraNORI

LadySybilVimes

I hope so - I was really disappointed to see Jonathon Van Ness having a go at her.