Ireland allows self id which means anyone can claim to be whichever sex they choose (some call it gender but the correct word is sex). This person is being reported as a woman. I knew when I read the headline that it wouldn’t be a woman. This person will most likely be jailed with women. https://www.thejournal.ie/woman-jailed-criminal-court-5392090-Mar2021/

I thought that was going to be an article about Barbie Kardashian who attacked a social worker and nearly ripped her eyelid off and was then housed with women in jail but it’s someone else. It amazes me how soft-hearted judges are to transwomen with child pornography. It’s really marked. I mean, this quote from the article: ““I don’t think she is a bad person but she committed serious offences and the court must punish her for her misbehaviour,” said Judge Nolan.” I do think she’s a bad person. A terrible person. She involved herself in producing and distributing child pornography. No good person does that.

I was talking to someone I know who works with violent offenders (male bodied) the other day. She told me that many of them are currently in the process of transitioning so that they will be held elsewhere. These are people who have committed sordid and violent crimes against women and children, including rape and murder. I can’t believe there is any suggestion that people with this kind of profile might be housed in female prisons. If you did your crime as a male, you should do your time as a male, even if you do transition. I do wonder if there are any transitioning female bodied prisoners who want to be held in male prisons. And yes, they will be fucking up the statistics. It will start to look like women are very capable of committing rape and murder on a small but regular basis.

This is an interesting concept. On one level, it looks like the criminal is wanting to change sex to get an easier go at prison. But how do we know if their behaviour stemmed from not being ok in their own body? Or maybe a heap of female hormones will tone their anger and violence down to an acceptable level? I think it is such a complex issue. On one hand, people should be able to identify how they want. But then will people take advantage of it, is if fair in things like sport when males are faster and stronger than women and will it put females more at a disadvantage.

NotSure I agree it’s a complex issue. There’s still a lot of research and discussion needed on many trans issues IMO but it doesn’t seem to be happening. Legislation is being pushed through without that debate because anyone who questions it is slammed as a bigot.

NotSure I reckon all of those things are true - some trying to dodge the prison system, some involved in crime due to body issues (actually not sure about this one, dysphoria can be horrible but I’m not sure if it makes people violent), and female hormones will probably impact their violent offending. Incredibly complex. There are going to need to be different rules for different areas (prisons, womens shelters, sports, toilets) and that’s going to be complex to negotiate already, let alone with the amount of silencing that happens.

It’s often complicated and needs examination by unbiased and extensive research. Just regarding hormone manipulation and sex offenders (which was the OP), it has limited effectiveness. There certainly hasn’t been enough research AFAIK to suggest it will have a positive effect.

Disgusting, should be jailed as a male AND longer than 3 bloody years Didnt we get told people will never go trans for this…… being trans wont get them jailed in a better place for less time and we the crazy transphobes…….

Yeah the person I was talking to said it was a surprising number. She thought their motives were pretty straightforward, but she is not a psychologist or anything.

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Ireland allows self id which means anyone can claim to be whichever sex they choose (some call it ge...